Walking as a Christian Separated Man.
It is more complicated and harder than I had ever imagined.
I got an email from the person I am still married to.
I hesitate to call her my wife as she has joined herself to another man.
I am presently "married" to a woman but hesitate to say I am in a marriage since a marriage seems to imply that both parties in said marriage are still together.
I unhappily am not.
My party of the first part has chosen to take the last name of her lover as her own and she is presently in an adulterous relationship with him. She has been with this person for the last 7 months.
Which leaves me (to quote my counselor) in a very unfortunate situation.
Turns out she cannot apply for legal aid for at least a year as she has just moved out to Calgary with her lover a couple months or so ago. So divorce is not an option for her. At least not for a year.
She wants me to file for divorce. Yippee! I will get right on that! NOT.
As a Christian I cannot file for a divorce in good conscience. I neither want to be the instigator of the divorce, nor wish to pay for it as it was not my idea for her to run away with another man.
Two camps of thought from friends of mine:
The Biblical law states in the very words of Jesus that I can divorce said wife for adultery. I could do that and this would be all over. I could not live with myself for doing that, but I could divorce her for adultery.
That would be living by the law.
Mercy and Grace (and the Holy Spirit) tell me to leave the door open for said wife to repent and come back. If she does not come back and divorces me, then I have done all I can to stay married. The old college try as it were.
That is living in the path of love and forgiveness. Or is it?
Herein lies the problem. I am not really sure I want her back.
I am not sure if I could forgive her.
If God said so, yes, I guess I would have to be obedient and believe that He has the best for me and would enable me with the forgiveness I would need towards her.
But in my heart It seems so impossible to trust someone who has thrown away 15 years of marriage for an adulterous relationship.
My "wife" may be legally still married to me, but in her heart she has married herself to another. She just has not done this in the sight of a congregation or the legal system.
If my "wife" repented and returned. in the back of my mind I would always be wondering when, not if, she would do this to me again.
So here I live in limbo land. Neither able to go on with my life in a new romatic relationship, nor end the old one.
Would not be so bad but alas, I do not do alone well.
I miss being in the arms of a woman, and the prospect of living like this for the next year (minimum) fills me with despair and agony.
Some people can rejoice in singleness, the freedom and the liberty to do any and all the things they want without being accountable, to do what they please without consulting anyone, to go anywhere without question.
And all these things are good and well.
For them.
However, after sharing your life with someone, you experience what that intimacy felt like and you long to have that back.
As God said about Adam, It is not good for man to be alone.
Being alone with no one for company but an invisible God, a furball of a cat, and a hyperactive dog is a lonely existance at best.
My arms ache to hold someone but I cannot for fear of becoming an legal adulterer myself.
I wonder if Adam and Eve had this problem, or their immediate descendents?
I mean, there was no Justice of the Peace to legally marry them, no state sanctioned legal pastors.
How did they marry / divorce back then? The Priests and Elders married and sanctioned divorce.
I am wondering if marriage and divorce is the soley the domain of the heart, not the legal system.
I believe that Marriages, like baptism are an outward expression, in and to one's Christian community of an inner change to love one person to the exclusion of all others. A very oath before God to carry that out, and the onus of the community the couple is in to see that oath fulfilled by any help possible.
Anyone else uncomfortable with the thought that you have to go get a marriage "licence" to get married? Did anyone get permission from God to (a.) Allow the state to make money off of HIS institution? (b.) license something HE ordained? (c.) Pervert something that HE called holy?
We have just seen the legal institution of marriage now be redefined as marriage hetersexual and homosexual. It will not be long before intergenerational marriages are allowed as are already before the system. What is next? Japan is marrying animals, is beastiality the next rung on the ladder? How about brothers and sisters? Where is it going to end?
If we go to the beginning, to Adam and Eve, I think Marriages and Divorces are church and heart things, not court and legal things. The court and legal things were an afterthought.
I am reminded of the Scottish in the middle ages having secret non-legal marriages in the woods so that the english lords could not know that they were wed and not take their wives to bed to breed the "Scottish out of the Scots." These marriages were totally spiritual and non legal. the Scots revolted against Legal marriage on the basis that it was no longer Godly and led to the rape of their new wives and ultimately the destruction of their marriages.
I wonder if we are getting to the same place in our legal system.
Today the legal system classes common law marriage and legal marriage as the two ways to have a legal relationship in this country.
But has anyone noticed how similar the two classes and the rights they provide are looking?
So what is the difference? Society and the church says one group is married, the other is not.
But what does God say?
With Adam and Eve and their immediate descendents, I cannot see people waiting for their divorce to clear the justice system before they started another marriage, as there was no justice system back then.
A group of elders / priests sanctioned a marriage or divorce in a community based on God's law.
Read the story of Ruth and Boaz. Read how marriage and divorces were dealt with in Leviticus.
If pastors and elders can marry, why cannot they divorce? Has anyone other than me wondered about this?
Proof of a broken relationship, that one person or the other has forsaken the marriage covenant should be all that is needed for a divorce.
Division of assets should be a civil matter.
We wonder at the ability of the old testament Jews who all they had to do is say I divorce you three times and were divorced, legally and spiritually.
But today, it seems that you are still married legally and still bound to be, even if under God that covenant has been broken, until it is legally dealt with. This leaves you not quite married, and not quite divorced.
We have a multitude of people in our society that are married divorcees feeling like the walking dead. Not quite free, but still in bondage.
Who have no closure. The direct result of legal marriage.
The only people who have closure are the people who have lost their spouses to death.
At least they can go on in life.
Which makes me really think.
With legal marriage becoming more twisted and perverse as far as the law, homosexual marriages, marriage contracts with get out of jail free cards written into them...
What is more close to the real marriage God intends?
Is it a legal thing? Or a heart thing? A lot of churches would say both. I disagree.
I am reminded of the Anabaptists.
Until the Anabaptists, you were not legally baptized until you were baptized by the state as an infant.
Didn't matter if you were baptized by a pastor and in your heart you confessed Jesus as Lord and then were baptized as per the Bible.
You had to be legally baptized by the state before you could be officially baptized "by God" emphasis mine.
And in the end all the state was looking to do is keep a census through baptism so that they could keep track of their tax base. The state did not care if baptism was of God or not, as long as the tax roll was continuing to be accounted for.
So people namely pastors, deacons, elders, baptized people in secret with non legal baptisms. Under God.
I wonder if we have reached the same place in legal marriage.
Why do we have legal marriages?
So we can legally apply for benefits? So we can be legally represented as a couple?
So what makes that different than what the homosexuals want? Do we honestly believe they want the stamp of God on their relationships? No. Most of them hate God. They just want to be recognized as a couple in society, under the law, so that they can get the same benefits heterosexuals do. It is all about rights, greed and self-centeredness, not God centeredness.
I am beginning to believe that Canadian legal marriage has nothing to do with God, and what he wants.
We see in our Bibles obey the law of the land, except when to do so contradicts the word of the Lord. Does homosexual legal marriage not contradict the word of the Lord?
What is the "institution" of marriage?
Is it leaving mother and father and cleaving to one another as the Bible states?
Or is it some twisted legal thing?
I would love to hear a sermon from the pulpit on legal marriage and the defense thereof.
Every sermon I have heard on marriage uses the definitions and biblical references of the Bible. I have yet to hear in my humble 15 years of Christianity a sermon on legal marriage. Why?
Just something to think about.
How does this affect me?
It seems to avoid living under the law regarding my attitude towards my married other, I am living under the law regarding my own life and happiness.
On one hand I feel so very ready for another relationship, but on the other hand so not.
When I spend time with the opposite sex, and especially those I find myself attracted to, I feel the agony of my loneliness subside in their presence, but the fear of drawing too close slams into me like a wall and in fumbly awkwardness I short circuit conversations with people I could see myself having a meaningful relationship with.
As an introvert I have just beaten myself further into my shell. Again.
I actually have to fight myself to get out into public to talk to people so I don't become some derange miser type hermit with 78 cats who smells bad and yells at people all the time as the voices only talk to HIM!
Ok., ok, not quite that bad. But you get the picture.
Then there is the whole issue of what if my divorce did go through.
This is going to sound bad but...a divorce would feel like I won the lottery to get on with my life.
Then there are all the new Christan rules...
Before I got saved, I could just find someone interesting at the local pub, get drunk with them, yadda, yadda, and hopefully end up in a long term relationship.
Now there are threats like AIDS so now that type of dating is like playing Russian Roulette. Not even an option.
Now I must find someone who is a Christian, and who hopefully does not have AIDS or some other death disease.
The Bible says that the person I find must be a Christian so that I am not unequally yoked with an unbeliever.
Not quite sure what egg yolkes have to do with any thing but I digress...
So that means that the Christian dating rules are different. And I have no idea what the new rules are.
See, I thought I would be with my wife forever.
Not so said life. Or at least at this point of my life.
So as a Christian it is no sex before marriage, try to figure out if someone is interesting enough to spend the rest of your life with and get to know people enough to take the plunge and express your feelings to them, further vulnerablizing yourself.
That is all I know at this point.
Did I mention I was an introvert?
Guess that is why people say that God puts those type of relationships together.
Right now it seems like it would take a miracle for me to be in another intimate relationship with a woman.
I guess what Miracle Max said from the Princess Bride is true.
"Don't rush me, sonny. You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles. You got money?"
Seems God has me in the waiting room of life wanting me to figure something out.
To quote another character from the Princess Bride Inigo Montoya, "I hate wait"
So here I am going to a Marriage Tuneup seminar at my church under the unction of my pastor, and accountability friends, and God.
I don't wanna go! (Sounds like a 6 year old eh?)
But for some twisted reason unbeknownst to me, the Holy Spirit put this on my heart to attend.
And if I want peace I must, in obedience go.
So I am going.
Pray for me.
I still got a LOT to learn.
Blessings. -Moose
Ramblings of a 50 something year old guy trying to figure out life and trying to make sense of his world.
Saturday, October 29, 2005
Saturday, October 22, 2005
Pakistan/India Relief Benefit Concert
This is from my friend Hollis, the lead singer from Tangosierra. Their tunes are playing on Rock 102 right now. Please consider this. If you cannot make it, that's cool, but please let your other friends and aquaintances know. This is going for a good solid cause. There are a lot of people are in dire straits right now along the Pakistan-India border, and World Vision is a good solid way to help. As an added incentive the Canadian government is also kicking in a dollar for every dollar that Worldvision raises for this relief effort.
More news should be posted soon on the tangosierra website: http://www.tangosierra.ca/
Thanks for your time, Steve "Moose" Funkner
----- Original Message -----
From: Hollis Brown
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:17 AM
Subject: Urgent newsflash: The Roadhammers and Tango Sierra to do a benefit concert.
People,
This is happening fast, and so I don't have time to sort out who I'm mailing this to, but it looks like The Roadhammers are going to pop into Saskatoon this coming Tuesday, October 25th, for a benefit concert at the Longbranch Salloon and Tango Sierra will be adding their show too as an opener. It's all but confirmed, and it looks like a for sure thing, and it's happening fast, so spread the word that all the proceeds will go to the earthquake relief effort to get those people some tents before the snow flies. I've got a bad cold, and I woke up this morning thankful that I'm not sleeping in a ditch with a wet blanket and the flu and my house broken down. So, yes, please spread the word and if any of you are connected with the Red Cross or World Vision, help me get them involved asap. I'll be up tonight emailing them to get their people into it. The gov't. matches everything donated thru the 26th, so whatever you give will be doubled. Here's something I got from World Vision.
We can do it, Hollis.
Dear Mr. Brown:
The earthquake along the Pakistan-India border has taken a massive toll—estimates state more than 40,000 people dead and millions homeless.
World Vision is there, working around the clock to save the lives of children and their families. Already, our staff is distributing 3,000 tents, 1,000 quilts, 12,000 litres of water, and more to suffering victims.
To strengthen our relief efforts and to help rebuild lives, the Canadian government has committed to match every dollar donated by individuals, but only until October 26. That means your gift will double in value to rush things like clean water, food, shelter, medical supplies and more to help twice as many needy children and families.
Please give generously today—rush emergency supplies and help save lives.
Thank you for your swift action and continuing prayers.
Sincerely,
Dave Toycen
President, World Vision Canada
Click here to donate today. Your gift before October 26 will double in value to rush emergency supplies and help save children’s lives.
As Canada’s largest relief and development agency, World Vision’s passion is to help children and their communities transform their lives by fighting poverty and injustice. Since 1950, we have been providing hope for children in nearly 100 countries. We are motivated by God’s love for all people – regardless of race, religion, or gender.
More news should be posted soon on the tangosierra website: http://www.tangosierra.ca/
Thanks for your time, Steve "Moose" Funkner
----- Original Message -----
From: Hollis Brown
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 1:17 AM
Subject: Urgent newsflash: The Roadhammers and Tango Sierra to do a benefit concert.
People,
This is happening fast, and so I don't have time to sort out who I'm mailing this to, but it looks like The Roadhammers are going to pop into Saskatoon this coming Tuesday, October 25th, for a benefit concert at the Longbranch Salloon and Tango Sierra will be adding their show too as an opener. It's all but confirmed, and it looks like a for sure thing, and it's happening fast, so spread the word that all the proceeds will go to the earthquake relief effort to get those people some tents before the snow flies. I've got a bad cold, and I woke up this morning thankful that I'm not sleeping in a ditch with a wet blanket and the flu and my house broken down. So, yes, please spread the word and if any of you are connected with the Red Cross or World Vision, help me get them involved asap. I'll be up tonight emailing them to get their people into it. The gov't. matches everything donated thru the 26th, so whatever you give will be doubled. Here's something I got from World Vision.
We can do it, Hollis.
Dear Mr. Brown:
The earthquake along the Pakistan-India border has taken a massive toll—estimates state more than 40,000 people dead and millions homeless.
World Vision is there, working around the clock to save the lives of children and their families. Already, our staff is distributing 3,000 tents, 1,000 quilts, 12,000 litres of water, and more to suffering victims.
To strengthen our relief efforts and to help rebuild lives, the Canadian government has committed to match every dollar donated by individuals, but only until October 26. That means your gift will double in value to rush things like clean water, food, shelter, medical supplies and more to help twice as many needy children and families.
Please give generously today—rush emergency supplies and help save lives.
Thank you for your swift action and continuing prayers.
Sincerely,
Dave Toycen
President, World Vision Canada
Click here to donate today. Your gift before October 26 will double in value to rush emergency supplies and help save children’s lives.
As Canada’s largest relief and development agency, World Vision’s passion is to help children and their communities transform their lives by fighting poverty and injustice. Since 1950, we have been providing hope for children in nearly 100 countries. We are motivated by God’s love for all people – regardless of race, religion, or gender.
Friday, October 14, 2005
Tired
Tired.
Man am I wasted. Seems lately I have been in a spiritual/physical whirlwind.
I could pull a Rip Van Winkle for about 10 years 'cept I am no where near Sleep Hollow :)
Why is it that the more time saving devices we aquire to save more time, we proportionately lost more time as we aquire said devices?
I thought computers were supposed to give us more time for our lives, however, I am chained to one so much I should rent myself out as a glow light.
Seriously just hook me up to the power grid and I could probably contribute.
I am thinking that gamma rays off computer monitors cannot be healthy...Just a theory.
This sedinary lifestyle cannot be good. I can only think that when we were bonking beasts over the head and dragging them home to eat that mankind as a whole was probably in way better physical shape.
Like my buddy Chuck always says "Round IS a shape" (insert grin here)
A few years ago I would of never dreamed of being at a desk job. I was always doing heavy physical labour and I was in great shape.
Seems crazy but I remember having way more energy after work and not experiencing a mind numbing burnt out sensation when I got home at night.
I seem to have less energy now that I don't expend as much energy...wierd.
Seems to fly into the face of the laws of thermodynamics.
I have used LESS energy, therefore I should have more energy at the end of a day,
whereas physical labour should expend MORE energy so I should have less at the end of the day.
Guess that is not how the human body works.
Never professed to be a biologist or medical student, but something just don't seem right there.
Anywhoo...'nuff with the soapbox.
Gotta snooze. Big day tommorrow. Watching the Roughriders (Hopefully) Kick Edmonton's Butt, spending some time with 3 of the most awesome Christian brothers I know, and gonna end the night with home made barb-que burgers and American Sun Tea.
Hey - I know why I don't have any energy! Its those burgers! LOL...but they sure gonna taste goood!
Peace -Moose
Man am I wasted. Seems lately I have been in a spiritual/physical whirlwind.
I could pull a Rip Van Winkle for about 10 years 'cept I am no where near Sleep Hollow :)
Why is it that the more time saving devices we aquire to save more time, we proportionately lost more time as we aquire said devices?
I thought computers were supposed to give us more time for our lives, however, I am chained to one so much I should rent myself out as a glow light.
Seriously just hook me up to the power grid and I could probably contribute.
I am thinking that gamma rays off computer monitors cannot be healthy...Just a theory.
This sedinary lifestyle cannot be good. I can only think that when we were bonking beasts over the head and dragging them home to eat that mankind as a whole was probably in way better physical shape.
Like my buddy Chuck always says "Round IS a shape" (insert grin here)
A few years ago I would of never dreamed of being at a desk job. I was always doing heavy physical labour and I was in great shape.
Seems crazy but I remember having way more energy after work and not experiencing a mind numbing burnt out sensation when I got home at night.
I seem to have less energy now that I don't expend as much energy...wierd.
Seems to fly into the face of the laws of thermodynamics.
I have used LESS energy, therefore I should have more energy at the end of a day,
whereas physical labour should expend MORE energy so I should have less at the end of the day.
Guess that is not how the human body works.
Never professed to be a biologist or medical student, but something just don't seem right there.
Anywhoo...'nuff with the soapbox.
Gotta snooze. Big day tommorrow. Watching the Roughriders (Hopefully) Kick Edmonton's Butt, spending some time with 3 of the most awesome Christian brothers I know, and gonna end the night with home made barb-que burgers and American Sun Tea.
Hey - I know why I don't have any energy! Its those burgers! LOL...but they sure gonna taste goood!
Peace -Moose
Tuesday, October 11, 2005
Man Under Construction
Man Under Construction...
Haven't posted for a while been going through a lot of things namely a Transformations course by a man named Greg Mitchell at church,
The Purple book discipleship program:
http://www.everynationstore.com/Detail.bok?no=3
and...Junior Youth is back on and I am a leader, am trying to keep up with my accountability dudes, and trying to live a life, and catch all the Roughrider games besides :) Man it has been a stretching time. But good. It is definitely building a "new and improved" faith into my life.
In other news...spent the long weekend with my family in the town of Carrot River Saskatchewan (where there is no river and there are no carrots) where recently (within the last few years) a crocodile was found:
www.town.carrotriver.sk.ca/teleorhinus.htm
Very interesting to find a crocodile in a place where it snows every year :) A great PALAEONTOLOGICAL (my big word for today) find...
Other interesting discoveries in Carrot River were home cooked meals (which I haven't had recently) Turkey Dinners, and all the fixin's Awesome! Beats the heck outta 2 dollar TV dinners (ok...that is not ALL I eat, Just MOSTLY what I eat LOL!)
All in all life has been good to me so far...considering the circumstances.
Well thats my update, yup, think that is all I wanted to say...except this:
Bilbo continued in a much less than enthusiastic voice, "I…" he started as he went into his pocket, and pulled out an object. What is concealed in his hand, the crowd doesn't know…
He put his hands behind his back and continued muttering to himself, "…I… have things to do… "
The crowd put on expressionless faces, even Frodo…
"…I've put this off for far too long," Bilbo mutters to himself even more as the crowd continued to be speechless at his behavior, waiting for him to say something…
…Finally he spoke, "…I regret to announce, this is the end…!
"…I'm going now, I bid you all a very fond farewell…"
The crowd was even more speechless at Bilbo's latest remark. He looked at his nephew, Frodo one last time, "…goodbye."
And then…
…Bilbo vanished. The crowd gasped at what they saw. Gandalf was more than shocked to see Bilbo vanish before his eyes…
http://www.samizdat.com/fanfics/john/rurouni_kenshin_and_%20the_%20lord_%20of_%20the%20rings_chapter3.html
From Rurouni Kenshin and the Lord of the Rings
Prologue: One ring to rule them all
A Fanfiction by: John the Visionary, Docwho4243@aol.com
http://www.samizdat.com/fanfics/john/rurouni_kenshin_and_%20the_%20lord_%20of_%20the%20rings_prologue.html
Bless Ya -Moose
Haven't posted for a while been going through a lot of things namely a Transformations course by a man named Greg Mitchell at church,
The Purple book discipleship program:
http://www.everynationstore.com/Detail.bok?no=3
and...Junior Youth is back on and I am a leader, am trying to keep up with my accountability dudes, and trying to live a life, and catch all the Roughrider games besides :) Man it has been a stretching time. But good. It is definitely building a "new and improved" faith into my life.
In other news...spent the long weekend with my family in the town of Carrot River Saskatchewan (where there is no river and there are no carrots) where recently (within the last few years) a crocodile was found:
www.town.carrotriver.sk.ca/teleorhinus.htm
Very interesting to find a crocodile in a place where it snows every year :) A great PALAEONTOLOGICAL (my big word for today) find...
Other interesting discoveries in Carrot River were home cooked meals (which I haven't had recently) Turkey Dinners, and all the fixin's Awesome! Beats the heck outta 2 dollar TV dinners (ok...that is not ALL I eat, Just MOSTLY what I eat LOL!)
All in all life has been good to me so far...considering the circumstances.
Well thats my update, yup, think that is all I wanted to say...except this:
Bilbo continued in a much less than enthusiastic voice, "I…" he started as he went into his pocket, and pulled out an object. What is concealed in his hand, the crowd doesn't know…
He put his hands behind his back and continued muttering to himself, "…I… have things to do… "
The crowd put on expressionless faces, even Frodo…
"…I've put this off for far too long," Bilbo mutters to himself even more as the crowd continued to be speechless at his behavior, waiting for him to say something…
…Finally he spoke, "…I regret to announce, this is the end…!
"…I'm going now, I bid you all a very fond farewell…"
The crowd was even more speechless at Bilbo's latest remark. He looked at his nephew, Frodo one last time, "…goodbye."
And then…
…Bilbo vanished. The crowd gasped at what they saw. Gandalf was more than shocked to see Bilbo vanish before his eyes…
http://www.samizdat.com/fanfics/john/rurouni_kenshin_and_%20the_%20lord_%20of_%20the%20rings_chapter3.html
From Rurouni Kenshin and the Lord of the Rings
Prologue: One ring to rule them all
A Fanfiction by: John the Visionary, Docwho4243@aol.com
http://www.samizdat.com/fanfics/john/rurouni_kenshin_and_%20the_%20lord_%20of_%20the%20rings_prologue.html
Bless Ya -Moose
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